Good Inventory from Goodwill

by Cynthia Stine on May 21, 2013

Thrift stores are a great source of inventory for FBA sellers and it is an adventure every time in more ways than one…I’m writing this week about Goodwill in particular because it is a slightly different beast than the typical neighborhood thrift store.  For one thing, Goodwill is a huge organization with locations all over North America including Canada and Mexico. What does this mean to you? It means they tend to be really well organized with warehouses and the ability to distribute huge lots of goods across a large region. If this sounds a tiny bit like “BigLots,” it should.  Goodwill gets new and slightly damaged merchandise in large lots from businesses and manufacturers of all kinds and it balances out where the goods go so no one store is overwhelmed by a particular item. It may even spread a large lot across multiple regions which means that other Goodwill shoppers across the country might have the same item, not just local stores.

If you find a good seller in one Goodwill near you, it is likely that you can pick up more at another Goodwill. These are brand new items although sometimes the boxes are beat up and not good for selling. Often Amazon is no longer (or never did) selling these items because they are discontinued which is also nice for us. A huge preponderance of new Goodwill items sell between $2 and $6.

Of course, the majority of inventory at a Goodwill is used, donated items from individuals and small groups. These items are collected either at individual stores or collection sites throughout the city.  They are then sorted (lots of stuff is trashed on the spot – you’d be amazed at the garbage some people donate) and often taken to a central warehouse where the goods are balanced out a bit.  My local Goodwills, for example, are full of used textbooks right now – most of them only $2 – and I’m seeing some repeats from store to store. I’ve bought entire shopping carts full of textbooks with under 1 million rankings and I’m thrilled. I can only speculate where they got them because normally you’d only see a few textbooks at a Goodwill and yet the past couple of weeks have been staggering. 

By the way, the reason you only see a few textbooks at most Goodwills is because many of them are now selling their more valuable books on…Amazon!  Because each region is under different management, you see a lot of “Goodwills” selling online. Their competency in selling is highly variable and they don’t usually have the manpower to plow through all the books they get, but textbooks usually get some scrutiny. They are easy to pick out of a pile for one thing.

Which brings me to the question, what can you buy at a Goodwill to sell on FBA? Unlike eBay, there are many categories on Amazon where you can ONLY sell new items like “baby” and “toys,” so be sure you know what can be sold used. Plus, FBA sellers are restricted from certain categories or need special permission (like “collectible books,” or “clothing” for example). If you aren’t sure, look it up in the “help” section of Seller Central. Amazon is very clear.

One thing you can’t really anticipate is the “who is forbidding us to sell now?” question. Some manufacturers have clout with Amazon and restrict third-party sellers of their goods. I bought some new party plates at Target with “Cars 2” on them which I found out after a couple of weeks of selling them that I could no longer sell them. Ironically, the matching napkins were no problem and I sold all of those. The plates came back to me and I’m selling them through another channel. Amazon doesn’t publish a list or anything you can check so this is how most people find out that they can’t sell something that looked so great on the scanner. You can call Amazon before listing a product if you are concerned – this was the solution they offered me when I asked what we sellers could do.

If you see an item with no FBA sellers, which is clearly branded, be aware that it might end up being something you have to merchant-fulfill or sell in another category. I just bought a brand-new Disney iPhone case for $2 at Goodwill. There are merchant but no FBA sellers. I suspect it might end up going the eBay route or merchant-fulfilled, but I couldn’t resist the deal. They sell new from Disney for around $30.

So here’s how I work a Goodwill:

  • Stuff up front in bins or on display shelves – This is often the new merchandise they are trying to move. I bought new sports goods and toys this weekend.
  • Books – I’m looking for non-fiction for the most part.
  • Collectible Games – the exception to the rule that all toys must be new is if it is a collectible meaning it is discontinued, old, rare, hard-to-find. Another clue is that Amazon is not selling it either. If they are selling it, it is definitely not collectible. Bring a small knife to open any tape and make sure all the pieces are there before you leave or that they are easy and cheap to replace like timers, clay, dice, etc. You have to sell complete games. At some Goodwills they will let you bring incomplete games back, but most of them don’t so be sure to check for pieces.
  • New merchandise hidden in the kitchen/appliance area – air filters, designer napkins, vacuum cleaner bags…who knew?
  • Allowable used appliances. In one of his eBooks, Jordan Malik turned me on to Sharper Image air purifiers and how people will buy them used and in a box of my own making (they are oddly shaped). With the exception of large items like this, I personally only buy products that are in their original packaging even if they clearly used. It saves me creating a box and is more appealing to potential customers to buy an “open box” item. Be sure to plug in any appliances before you leave the store and check that they are working.
  • VHS tapes – new, sealed in plastic, only. Don’t bother with used from a Goodwill, most are in terrible shape and will only bring you negative feedback. Also, make sure there is really good margin on the tape. VHS sell slowly and you want to make sure your margin can afford a year or so worth of storage fees if it comes to that. You want tapes that aren’t available on DVD and are rare and hard to find.
  • Computer software and games – used is fine. Make sure the discs look very clean. If you’re doubtful, don’t buy it. If you are looking at a jewel case and there is no barcode on it, the software/video game originally came in a box, probably with other stuff like a booklet. You cannot sell it without the box and original stuff.
  • DVDs – you probably won’t find much of value in this section since people tend to donate their unwanted DVDs (translate=blockbusters that everyone has) so it is usually last on my list EXCEPT if it is brand new, sealed in package. Then I’ll check it out. With Roku and iTunes, fewer and fewer people are buying DVDs so keep the rank low (I suggest under 100,000 but this is not a hard and fast rule and other sellers may disagree with me).
  • Stuffed animals – usually stuffed animals are piled up on top of clothing racks. I’ve occasionally found brand new toys with their original tags that show no wear whatsoever. I found two Harley Davidson branded toys this way and I suspect they were protected rather than played with which was great for me. Some toys will have matted fur or worn tags. These are not new and you can’t sell them. If they smell like cigarettes or cats, don’t sell them.  In Amazon’s world, “New is New” and not “nearly” or “mostly” new.
  • Baby items – must be new. Boxes must look great, don’t pick up a slightly dinged or scratched box. Moms are very picky. It is not worth the grief. Be aware of items that are not sellable like crib bumpers and check all butt wipes and diapers to see what size package they are sold in. Most times what I find at Goodwill is not enough to sell on Amazon (like there are 12 packages in a case kind of thing). Don’t sell formula or food unless the expiration is more than 6 months out.
  • High-dollar items – usually there is a locked case somewhere with higher priced items in excellent condition. These might be collectibles, new items or even auction items (i.e. you have to bid to win them). They’ll let you scan while they watch. You can find some very nice things in the case like expensive digital cameras, collectible comic books and more.

Things to know:

  1. Sale items and books are not returnable in most Goodwills and thrift stores. They get so many books – they do NOT want them back. 
  2. Books and other departments will go on sale fairly regularly.
  3. Some Goodwills are so organized they have “clubs” with membership cards, discounts, special sales…just like any typical retailer.  Sign up, they’re worth it. I’m a member of the Goodwill group that covers West Chicago up to Central Wisconsin.  Why? Because my friend Lynn lives there and we go shopping together when I visit.
  4. You will need to sign up with each Goodwill separately with your sales tax certificate unless it is one of those highly organized and technology interconnected groups (like the Chicago area). In most cases, they three-hole punch your form and put it in a notebook to check against next time. I’m not kidding. In North Texas, we’re lucky the cash registers don’t use pop-up numbers. It is ironic since we’re in the Telecom Corridor.

As a special caveat, I will warn you that part of Goodwill’s mission is to train unskilled and formerly homeless people for jobs. Often the person behind the counter is close to illiterate and finds a cash register intimidating. Things like ringing up your purchase as “non-taxable” can be a problem.  Checking out with multiple shopping carts can be a problem. Finding your sales tax certificate in the 3-ring notebook can be a problem.  Be patient and cheerful and remember this is normal and part of the mission. Checkout for me can take half an hour sometimes.

This caveat applies to a lot of non-profit thrift stores, not just Goodwill of course.  Salvation Army is also an excellent resource. I don’t know about the rest of the country, but they are not quite as organized down here as Goodwill. You have to go to the right neighborhood to find the real finds for Salvation Army whereas I find the Goodwills to be fairly consistent throughout a region. In terms of working the store, I pretty much work them all the same.

Many thrift stores have special sale days each month or special sections of the store on sale (like books). When my Mom is in town, we go shopping together to take advantage of her seniors discount. Some move inventory like crazy, some have the same old stuff every time.  Your mission is to find the stores with swift turnover and visit regularly. One thrift store I know of discounts books to 10 cents on Saturdays and their turnover is very fast. It is a dirty, crowded hole-in-the-wall but an excellent find for an FBA scout. 

If you would like to learn more about thrifting from other FBA sellers, Chris Green has videos that he records live of some of his shopping trips. Scan Power has a YouTube channel with episodes like “Thrifting with the Boys” and “Thrift Store Haul with Chris Green at the Salvation Army.” In addition, there is a regular internet radio show (with archives!) called “Thrifting for Profit – The Amazon Way” with Debra Conrad and “Thrifting-with-the-Boys” with Jason Smith that you may find interesting.

What about you? Do you scout thrift stores? What have you learned? Please share your stories in the comments below!

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Jump Into Success By Strengthening Your Beliefs

by Cynthia Stine on May 13, 2013

When I was a young whippersnapper in New York City and learning my craft, I used to get discouraged sometimes. As a publicist I was calling members of the media all day long. They were busy, annoyed and didn’t want to hear from me. Sometimes they were rude and it would get to me after a while. I would become afraid.  The term “call reluctance” doesn’t really explain how heavy the phone gets at times like that.  One day I was confiding in my Dad how tough it was and the mean things the reporters were saying to me. He told me to close my office door and throw my briefcase to the floor. Then, while he was on the phone, I had to jump over it back and forth and say to myself out loud, “I am! I am! I am the best publicist I know!”

I did this until I was too exhausted to be afraid, basically. While I felt ridiculous and sweaty, it absolutely worked.  Looking back now I know why it worked: 1) my Dad loved me and was helping me which was heartening – connection can change your world in an instant; 2) it changed my state of mind as I giggled at the absurdity of what I was doing in my sensible suit and hose (Tony Robbins calls it a “pattern interrupt”) and 3) it got oxygen into my system which is a natural euphoric. It was also 4) a positive affirmation that I needed to tell myself.

He learned this trick when he was paying his way through college as a door-to-door Bible salesman. I was surprised to learn that he’d ever been discouraged because he was a really great salesman. He even sold Bibles to atheists, which is saying something. The fact is we all get discouraged sometimes. It is hard to run into obstacles over and over again. We can feel like failures even when what we’re experiencing is absolutely normal. For my Dad and me, rejection was an expected part of our jobs and yet it would be hard to take sometimes.

As Amazon sellers, we don’t have to worry about doors slammed in our faces or people swearing at us over the phone and calling us “little girl.” The worst we experience is usually a negative rating or angry buyer.  And yet there are obstacles that can get us down. I went shopping at Walmart recently with a fellow seller and there was nothing to speak of for our hours of scanning. I wanted to show her that you can find good product at big box stores, but yesterday was not the day to prove that point, alas.

I’ve got listing errors in my inventory that I’m trying to unravel with Amazon and many of them are turning out to be things I can no longer sell which is discouraging. I’m having them destroyed or sent back if I think I can sell them some other way. Amazon’s rules change all the time. Manufacturers move in to forbid us from selling their brands. Fees go up, Amazon lowers its prices on your best seller, sales taxes are a pain in the butt…I could go on and on.

What keeps me moving forward (mostly) cheerfully is that I learned a long time ago that change is a constant and normal. It is in every business so I might as well love the one I’m with instead of trying to find that perfect business without any troubles or at least very few (thank you Dr. Seuss for writing I Had Trouble in Getting to Solla Sollew).

Amazon’s FBA program is much simpler than my day job and heavily technology enabled which is helpful…and sometimes a curse when the technology goes awry. Dad’s exercise helped me a lot when I was younger because I was afraid that I wasn’t good enough. I wasn’t up to the task. I was somehow a fraud and now the world was about to catch up with me. He reminded me then that what I was experiencing was temporary and normal. I reminded myself as I was jumping that I was a good salesperson/publicist and this was just a tough day – nothing more.

I’ve done this exercise at different times in my career when I needed it and I usually felt better afterwards. Then I got back on the phone again and kept calling. I wouldn’t always have a success right away but I knew I would eventually. Persistence is the key to public relations as it is for most businesses. My failure at Walmart was forgotten by a fabulous morning thrifting and garage saling.

I don’t have the same fears any more so my briefcase remains unmolested today. I have internalized the beliefs that keep me going and I rarely have to speak them aloud, but I thought I’d share some of them in case they might help you in a discouraged moment:

  • I will figure this out. I always do, eventually.
  • When the rules change, an opportunity is created for me – I just need to find it.
  • My business is not quite like anyone else’s.
  • I am learning constantly.
  • I have something to contribute.
  • I am not alone.
  • The end result is worth the trouble getting there.
  • My work is important and meaningful (and thus, worth doing).

Say these out loud to yourself over time until you believe them, too. Find specific examples from your own life that prove these points to you. Remind yourself of their truth for you.

The first three on this list are hard-won, forged in sweat and tears. Basically, they come from experience. Change can be terrifying and letting go and having faith that I will figure it out only came after I faced failure and did it over and over again. Same with when the rules change.  My profession is radically different from when I started back in 1988. Our “secret sauce” used to be our lists – lists that anyone can buy off the internet today. I’ve had to reinvent myself many times in the past 24 years to stay relevant in the marketplace.

The third point is enormously important to me – it may not matter a bit to you.  This belief is what allows me to work with my competitors – “co-opetition.” Throughout my career and in my Amazon business I work closely with my so-called competitors. In my day job, I hired them for projects and worked with them side-by-side.  In the Amazon business I’m training my competitors to perform better than me and I collaborate with other sellers to make the industry better for all of us.

While we all do the same thing – sell stuff online – I know that my business is sufficiently unique that I won’t be stumbling all over my colleagues. My inventory is different from yours because I am different from you. My interests, what I look for, those reflect me. I have a weakness for designer Barbie dolls, for example, that is entirely about my childhood and not at all about their profitability (per se). There are lots of items that have bigger margins and are less fussy to deal with than collectible dolls, but I like them. I like buying them. I like thinking about people displaying them. I’m weird that way…and so are you. You have your things that you gravitate to without even realizing it. You have your shopping spots, your “secret sauce.”

You work your business slightly differently than anyone else; you enjoy different aspects of the business. My friend Robert Prince, for example, loves competition. He may not verbalize it this way, but when he talks about how he whips other sellers into shape and gets them to charge the same amount he does for an item by his price maneuvers rather than playing the downward price spiral game, there is real joy and satisfaction in his voice far beyond the fact that he’s making margin. So why is it important that my business is unique? Because it reminds me that there is room enough for all of us – I’m a “big pie” person – and that I absolutely can compete and succeed even with lots of other sellers. There is a place for me in this industry…and a place for you.

“I am learning constantly” is the flip side of “I don’t know everything.” It is dangerous to think that I know everything there is to know about any of my businesses. Change is a constant so I need to be learning all the time in order to flow with it. I make mistakes and if I didn’t learn from them…I’d be a failure. Learning allows me to keep growing.

Learning also makes you willing to make mistakes in the first place. If you ever get afraid of making mistakes, that’s when you stop growing and trying new things. You become rigid in your operations. It is sure failure in a business like ours. No one likes to make mistakes, but if you are confident in your ability to get through it and learn from it, it is not a scary proposition.

You have something to contribute. You are not only selling stuff online, you are bringing value to our industry/community.  You are important beyond being an economic engine. I see this constantly on Yahoo and Facebook forums where sellers help sellers perform better. Everyone brings something different to the table. I learn from other sellers all the time.

This belief that my contribution is valuable is also what helps make my work meaningful to me. I think about people paying their bills, planning vacations, sending their kids to school, realizing their dreams because I wrote about Amazon’s FBA program. It is a huge source of satisfaction and joy for me. It has always mattered to me that the work I did was valuable in some way. With the Amazon business I am helping more than a handful of clients and it is what keeps me writing my blog and learning new things.

This motivates me more than the money although I certainly wouldn’t do this business if I wasn’t making money. I have bills to pay, too! But when I’m doing something particularly boring like processing inventory, it sustains me. Knowing that what I’m doing is bigger than myself and the potential worth of this used book in front of me, keeps me going. When I’m struggling with all the sales tax stuff and other necessary but tedious business BS, I think “this will make a great blog post one day,” and it keeps me going. So does the belief that the end result is worth the trouble.

I pay for my son’s school with my Amazon income. I’m planning a family vacation this summer with my Amazon income. This makes me happy and keeps me motivated when things aren’t going perfectly. My family matters more to me than anything else. What are your emotionally satisfying reasons for selling online?

I am not alone. I have my family, friends and colleagues. When I’m discouraged, I call someone and that helps me change my negative thinking. Maybe we think through a problem or share “exciting moments in scouting.” Sometimes I go online to the forums and read about other people’s problems and realize we are all rowing in the same direction. Maybe I can find help from the community. Reaching outside of myself keeps me from being isolated and lonely. It gives me the connection I need at that moment. It changes my thinking.

What about you? What are your beliefs that keep you going? Do you have affirmations or “tricks” that help you when you are discouraged? Please share in the comments below!

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Keeping Track of it All….

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Questions from the eMail Bag

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Sales Tax: The Sound and the Fury Part II

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Sales Tax: The Sound and the Fury

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Help! I Need Somebody!

April 13, 2013

There are few things more frustrating than not being able to figure out a problem. I had a reader contact me this week desperate because she wasn’t able to fix a problem with her inventory and couldn’t get the help she needed. Boy have I been there. Technology is so great when it works that [...]

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Questions From the e-Mail Bag

April 4, 2013

Sometimes questions I get from my readers have been answered in previous blogs but they didn’t see them for one reason or another so this week I thought I’d list common questions and where to find the more detailed answers on my blog. For those of you who have been reading from the beginning, I [...]

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The Zen of Selling on Amazon

March 28, 2013

In this blog I write a lot about the tactical elements of running an Amazon FBA business, getting your first box to Amazon, using the tools, new rules from Amazon, that kind of thing. I get a lot of questions that are ostensibly about running a business but essentially boil down to “Is this going [...]

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Kabbage Brings The Green

March 22, 2013

Have you ever thought “if I only had more money for inventory, my business would really take off?” A few months ago I heard about a company called Kabbage that provides money to online businesses like ours based on our sales history rather than a huge long application form and pledged collateral. I was intrigued [...]

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